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and welcome to episode number 17 of the

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point of convergence podcast

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as always i am your host exo academian

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when it comes to proposed hypotheses

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offered to explain the intelligences

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behind the ufo phenomenon

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the extraterrestrial hypothesis is still

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the most common idea put forth

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for the majority of the population when

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confronted with the notion that a

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supposedly non-human intelligence is

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here

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traversing the skies above our heads in

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technologically sophisticated craft

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that run circles around our most

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cutting-edge aerospace vehicles

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space alien still seems like the most

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logical explanation

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in fact for much of the general public

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this is really considered the only

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logical option

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for those who've studied the ufo

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phenomenon in any detail

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and for any length of time however it

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quickly becomes clear

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for those really open to considering all

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of the data with an open mind that is

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that the extraterrestrial hypothesis on

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its own

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seems lacking and for much of this small

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subset of the population

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actually paying close attention to this

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phenomenon

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something like the interdimensional

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hypothesis rises up

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as a leading option

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other possibilities also exist of course

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one of them being the crypto terrestrial

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hypothesis

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which we've already discussed in some

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detail on a previous podcast

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suggesting that a sister humanoid

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species may be cohabitating the planet

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with us

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in a stealthy way employing masterfully

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skillful techniques of misdirection

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to encourage our belief that what we've

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extraterrestrial visitors

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a fourth hypothesis positing beings

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known as

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ultraterrestrials which is some

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combination of crypto-terrestrial and

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is a notion we will be pursuing in a

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now if you've studied the ufo phenomenon

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for any length of time

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whether you're familiar with this

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particular podcast or not

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you've likely come across all of the

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above hypotheses

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there are still other options however

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some of them involve elements that ask

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us to think a little more outside the

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box introducing

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additional variables such as time travel

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in this week's podcast i'd like to

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explore one of the lesser-known

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hypotheses

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that does exactly this this particular

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hypothesis

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doesn't have a commonly recognizable

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name we can refer to

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because it is in some ways a hybrid

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version of other hypotheses

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if one were to give it a name something

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like the post-terrestrial hypothesis

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works well enough though as you'll soon

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it also involves elements of

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extraterrestriality as well

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it is also intimate to us because it

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supposedly involves

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actions by a time traveling

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non-conventional

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future human population whose aim is to

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avert some imminent disaster

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in human history by enacting some form

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of mass

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intervention accomplished mostly on the

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subconscious level

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this particular hypothesis is from my

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both insightful and elegant insightful

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in that it offers potential explanations

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for particular data points commonly

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found within the literature

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of the ufo phenomenon that other

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simply ignore and elegant because it

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explains much of the data

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without resorting to the incorporation

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of notions such as

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hypotheses it adds time travel to the

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and revolves around our own

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post-conventional human future

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an exploration of a hypothesis

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suggesting that at least some of the

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beings described in the literature

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of the ufo phenomenon are actually our

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genetically altered and featuring a

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splice genome

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incorporating traits of other species

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from our very own planet

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who are perhaps here to try to avert

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apocalyptic wrong turn in human history

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is the topic of this the 17th episode of

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now as we begin today's podcast a quick

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reminder

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that what we collectively colloquially

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phenomenon is almost certainly actually

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phenomena

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from multiple players and this makes it

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notoriously difficult to tease out

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intentions and methods being employed

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for instance part of today's discussion

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involves depictions

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of what are commonly referred to as the

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but the literature is not consistent

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when it comes to people's depictions of

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and because it's become part of our

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folklore now some people may be just

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unconsciously repeating what they've

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already heard or are

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ascribing to the grays these

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stereotypical traits

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something to keep in mind as we proceed

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i'd also like to add that when it comes

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to trying to figure out

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which non-conventionally human groups

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are here visiting our planet

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and our civilization and perhaps

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i think the answer is all of the above

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that the sources include

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that makes it fascinating but

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consideration

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of this new hypothesis which i'm calling

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the post-terrestrial hypothesis

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which posits that some of the beings

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and influence us are actually our own

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they have elements of our genome but

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spliced into that genome

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are elements from other creatures of the

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earth both insectoid

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in aims of averting some sort of

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podcast in a similar way to what we did

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in the episode on the cryptoterrestrials

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eight different ways

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that i think the data fits well with

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this hypothesis

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that these beings or at least some of

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them may be our own descendants

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in some form who've time traveled to try

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and avert some disaster

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in terms of the aspects of the data

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behind the ufo phenomenon

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that fit well with this post-terrestrial

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vast interstellar travel

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and again in case you're not familiar

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the most common argument against the

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extraterrestrial hypothesis

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is that if these beings are supposedly

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other star systems or even more so other

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that it seems unlikely that even if they

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the travel would take far too long this

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would do away with it because these

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and understand consciousness which would

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some of what we see with the ufo

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phenomenon literature

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and in terms of motive their motive is

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that their very own future

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is at stake that by changing our

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they may change theirs as we discussed

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if you are native to the earth you would

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have a vested interest

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in changing our behavior how much more

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number four has to do with the strange

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encounters

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people have with these beings that seem

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to suggest something symbolic

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in nature is intended and here i'd like

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jacques villa quote the ufos

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are physical manifestations that cannot

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be understood apart from their psychic

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and symbolic reality what we see here is

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not an alien invasion

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it is a spiritual system that acts on

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unquote now jacques villa was one of the

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first researchers to point out the

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absurdity of these encounters

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both the medical encounters as well as

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the sexual encounters

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if the goal of these others is

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supposedly to gain our genetic material

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they could do so in much simpler ways

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technology

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we can easily gain access to a person's

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entire genome

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through a single strand of hair so why

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the need to abduct people supposedly and

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take them on board

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these spacecraft to do these procedures

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it just doesn't add up

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unless of course what we experience is

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just a surface layer

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that is these medical

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and sexual encounters that are very

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strange

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but if the change actually intended is a

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subconscious one

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achieved through psychical means then

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this might make more sense

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this is exactly what valley is

305
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suggesting and i think there's strong

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support for this argument

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that was argument 4a suggesting that the

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means

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are symbolic number 4b is closely

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related because it again has to do with

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the absurdity

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of some of these encounters and i call

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this the trojan horse effect

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absurdity allows for an unconscious

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imprinting

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like subliminal advertising and allows

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for a transformation to happen

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under the very noses of the society's

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elite

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without them realizing it because they

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remain largely oblivious

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because the absurdity itself leads them

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to believe it is nothing of substance

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they ignore it while it does its work

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anyway

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and this certainly fits with the data

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even today

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in 2021 it's extremely difficult

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to get the mainstream media or the

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mainstream scientific establishment or

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academia

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to take this topic seriously it's almost

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like a mass

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trance effect either way by

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using a trojan horse effect with

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absurdity

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the change keeps happening while the

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larger society doesn't even talk about

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it

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that's what i suggest is happening we

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see evidence of it

342
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all around us let's move on to number

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five

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in terms of an aspect of the data that

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supports this notion

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of a post-terrestrial species visiting

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here we speak of physiological traits

348
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when we think about the beings that are

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encountered

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they are strangely terrestrial first we

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have the humanoid aspect

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two arms two legs two eyes and what not

353
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that seems awfully similar to us almost

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like a being

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native to the earth anyway but you also

356
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have other beings

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that are encountered that also have ties

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to the earth or so it would seem

359
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here i speak of insectoid beings like

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the praying mantis that is seven feet

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tall

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or the reptilians that are often

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encountered some have suggested that the

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grays

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may actually be a combination of all of

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these elements

367
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now again you have to ask yourself if

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these beings

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are coming from far-flung star systems

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why would they look so much like

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creatures native to the earth

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whether humanoid or a praying mantis

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insectoid type

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or reptilian type why would that be the

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case

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it seems to suggest that perhaps they

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are native to the earth

378
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and what this argument is suggesting

379
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with this post-terrestrial hypothesis

380
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is that a future genome has spliced

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together

382
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each of these creatures to create a new

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post-conventional

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i really don't think you can overstate

385
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this aspect of the data

386
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the fact that these creatures so often

387
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resemble

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earth-like creatures suggest to me that

389
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they are somehow

390
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connected to the earth now this

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post-terrestrial hypothesis

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is one option that explains this that

393
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somehow a future version of us

394
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has spliced together the genomes of

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different species native to the earth

396
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other hypotheses also explain this for

397
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instance the crypto-terrestrial and to

398
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some extent

399
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the ultra-terrestrial but this is

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definitely a weak point in the e-t

401
00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:44,399
hypothesis the chances that a species

402
00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:45,440
coming from

403
00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:48,079
some far-flung star system would have

404
00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:49,839
traits so similar to earth-like

405
00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:50,720
creatures

406
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let's move on to number six number six

407
00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:00,880
is closely associated to number three

408
00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:04,000
which was means and motive the motive

409
00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:05,680
was they are trying to avert

410
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some future catastrophe in human history

411
00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:11,760
now there is plenty of evidence

412
00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:14,079
suggesting we are on the precipice of

413
00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:15,360
disaster

414
00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:17,440
that's much more ominous and pressing

415
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,160
than in previous human eras

416
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think about the worst that could happen

417
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with a civilization

418
00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:26,800
that had clubs and spears at the most

419
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you might wipe out a tribe or two but

420
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the human species

421
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would not die off and the biosphere of

422
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the planet would not be affected

423
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clearly that's not the case now with

424
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nuclear weapons

425
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we could wipe out the entire human

426
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civilization or a very large part of it

427
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as well as destroy aspects of the

428
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biosphere which might do away with the

429
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rest of the humans that don't die in the

430
00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:50,959
initial nuclear attack

431
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as well as much of the other species of

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the earth who are innocent bystanders

433
00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:59,279
add to that the notion of bioweapons

434
00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,199
we've just come through a pandemic we're

435
00:16:05,749 --> 00:16:03,199
still trying to recover from it

436
00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:05,759
imagine what happens in a few years when

437
00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:06,880
bioweapons

438
00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:09,920
can unleash even worse viruses upon the

439
00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,199
population

440
00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:13,120
this is the precipice we stand at the

441
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:20,949
and again while a benevolent et species

442
00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:23,519
may be concerned about this as brothers

443
00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:25,759
in our cosmic family

444
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,920
no species would have a greater vested

445
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,279
interest in this

446
00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:31,120
than our future descendants that are

447
00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:32,880
trying to change the course of human

448
00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:33,600
history

449
00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:40,550
now let's move on to number seven which

450
00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:42,880
is closely associated to number six

451
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:44,800
because it again it has to do with a

452
00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:47,120
threat though the threat is not nearly

453
00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:48,079
as apparent

454
00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:51,360
as that of nuclear war or bioweapons

455
00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:54,079
in fact most of the human population is

456
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:54,959
unaware of it

457
00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,240
it's flying under the radar i speak of

458
00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:00,240
the technological singularity

459
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,639
upon which we are approaching i've

460
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:04,799
discussed this before

461
00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:07,120
we have remarkably challenging times

462
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:07,839
ahead

463
00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:10,880
when it comes to our navigating of the

464
00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:12,160
tailoring of life

465
00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:15,520
when we can change the genome when we

466
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,079
can

467
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:18,240
custom make human beings the way we want

468
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,439
to and

469
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:21,360
as we are on the verge of developing

470
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,039
artificial intelligence

471
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:26,160
that could become so intelligent and

472
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,039
dominant

473
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,440
and fast that it could challenge our

474
00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:31,760
very domination on the planet

475
00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:39,750
again for many people perhaps for some

476
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:41,520
of you out there in the audience

477
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:44,320
this is flying under the radar and yet i

478
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:46,000
see it like a tsunami that is

479
00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:48,799
rushing toward us every year our

480
00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,200
technological speeds and capacities

481
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,760
are growing exponentially we will reach

482
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:55,840
this technological singularity within

483
00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:57,120
our lifetimes

484
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:59,679
and that proposes massive challenges for

485
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:00,480
us

486
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,280
what if it is this that these others are

487
00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:05,039
most concerned about and they've come

488
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:05,440
into

489
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:08,000
our era to try and avert a future

490
00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:14,789
let's move on to number eight the final

491
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,520
point

492
00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:18,320
in favor of this post-terrestrial

493
00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:19,200
hypothesis

494
00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:21,280
suggesting that these others or at least

495
00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:22,240
some of them

496
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:24,559
may be our very future descendants who

497
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,120
are vastly genetically different than us

498
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:29,760
and who have genomes spliced together

499
00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:32,799
from different creatures of the earth

500
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:35,760
i speak here of their intense interest

501
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:36,720
in us

502
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,600
it almost seems archaeological in nature

503
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:41,280
at times it seems like they have an

504
00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:42,000
interest in

505
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,160
us the same way that we have an interest

506
00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:46,400
in ancient human civilizations

507
00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:49,600
that have long since died off

508
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,840
and beyond that they also seem to have

509
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:53,280
an interest in our

510
00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:55,679
nature in our emotional nature for

511
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instance

512
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that in some ways some have suggested

513
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that the grays

514
00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:02,960
are more like a hive mind what if

515
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,440
future changes in the human genome

516
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:07,440
create this hive mind

517
00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:10,559
that in trying to accomplish new things

518
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:13,360
by altering our genetic blueprint they

519
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,480
lose things

520
00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,559
and by coming back to our time they are

521
00:19:22,830 --> 00:19:18,080
trying to rectify that

522
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:24,230
future

523
00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,080
and now i'd like to add a few additional

524
00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:27,760
thoughts for your consideration

525
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:29,840
when it comes to this post-terrestrial

526
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:32,080
hypothesis

527
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:35,360
firstly what if the symbolic nature by

528
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:36,000
which they

529
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:38,000
interact with us which almost seems to

530
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:39,600
happen in an altered state of

531
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,160
consciousness or an alternate realm

532
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:44,480
what if that's the case because this

533
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:45,679
time travel

534
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:51,990
here i'm thinking about what we've

535
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,080
learned with remote viewing

536
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:56,559
we have found already in our very era

537
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:57,919
that we live in now

538
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:01,120
that one can time travel in a way via

539
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,720
remote viewing

540
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:04,880
yes indeed that means that not only can

541
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:06,000
you visit any place

542
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:08,240
on the earth or another planet for that

543
00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:10,559
matter in the present moment

544
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:13,520
but you can also move into the past or

545
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,799
the future

546
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:17,679
with remote viewing as well but you tend

547
00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:19,919
to be an observer rather than a direct

548
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:21,280
participant

549
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:23,120
there have even been experiments

550
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:24,960
supposedly successful

551
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:27,600
where people have gone on board a plane

552
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,039
that crashed

553
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:31,120
they have gone back in time found

554
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:32,840
themselves on that plane

555
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,600
observing and seeing for instance where

556
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,360
a bomb was placed trying to figure out

557
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:39,120
what actually caused that plane to come

558
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:40,000
down

559
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:42,960
what's astonishing is people on that

560
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:43,520
plane

561
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,080
supposedly notice the witness they

562
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:48,080
become part of that timeline

563
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:50,480
but indirectly they can't directly

564
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:51,600
change events

565
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,919
but they can change things symbolically

566
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:55,440
because the witnesses

567
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:58,000
observe them what if something similar

568
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:59,760
is happening with these others

569
00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:02,080
that they are us time traveling from the

570
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,200
future

571
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:05,600
and interacting with us in a symbolic

572
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:06,400
nature

573
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:13,909
something else for you to consider is

574
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,480
this notion of extraterrestriality

575
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:18,480
i mentioned in the introduction that

576
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:20,799
that element comes in as well

577
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:23,360
and why well because of course in our

578
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,080
very own future we will very likely

579
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:28,640
colonize other planets we will become an

580
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:30,000
et species

581
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:33,520
on our own in fact within the next few

582
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:35,840
years within a decade or so anyway

583
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:38,080
we are going to launch rockets that go

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to mars

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people have already volunteered to go

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there they will live

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and die on mars and supposedly will give

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birth

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to the first post-terrestrial human

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beings

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that's within the next 10 years imagine

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what might happen

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in decades and centuries beyond that

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imagine what happens when we really

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begin to play with the genome

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that may be what these others are at

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furthermore this time travel piece might

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help explain

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why we run into humanoid species so

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often

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in the ufo phenomenon literature

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supposedly human beings are encountered

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from all sorts of different planets both

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nearby

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and far what if that's because they are

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not

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in the present moment but actually time

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travelers

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our future descendants who've colonized

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vast aspects of our galaxy and beyond

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and they are time traveling and meeting

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us now and

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along the way their genomes have been

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changed

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that's why we see these hybrid beings

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that seem somehow

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in regards to that last point it's also

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well within the realm of possibility

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that we ourselves were seated on this

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planet

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by an even older humanoid form

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it would be hubris for us to assume we

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are the root of the tree

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we may be the branch of the tree or

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leaves on a branch of the tree

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and in that sense when we encounter

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these other species

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that look remarkably humanoid that seem

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to have aspects

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of the very same genome that we have

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it's because we're

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meeting brothers and sisters as it were

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from different planets different star

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systems perhaps different galaxies

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and they were all a part of a seeding

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process that began a long time ago

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and has been happening over vast time

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finally i would like to leave you with a

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couple of quotes

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first let's hear again from jacques

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villa who said quote

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we are faced with a technology that

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transcends the physical

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and is capable of manipulating our

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reality

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generating a variety of altered states

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of consciousness

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and have emotional perceptions the

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purpose of that technology

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may be to change our concepts of the

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universe

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unquote and philosopher jason giorgiani

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says

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quote the greys may be inviting a

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metamorphosis of humanity

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in its larval state unquote

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lastly when we step back and consider

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the data

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we've discussed over the last 17

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episodes of this podcast

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one point seems clear the others

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do not seem to be here as merely passive

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observers they are not merely witnesses

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no in fact change seems to be at the

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root

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of their presence here that this

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00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:44,960
particular point in history

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seems somehow significant and their

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mission here

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is to change us perhaps change our

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perception of reality

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and thus change how we live we may be at

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a unique pivot point

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in our history not only in terms of our

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potential

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survival though that may very well be at

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stake

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but also in terms of what we survive to

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become

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and of course if they are somehow us

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perhaps even a future version of us

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then we can understand why they're so

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interested in this process

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and on that note we've come to the close

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of another edition

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of the point of convergence podcast as

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always

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let's keep this conversation going and

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growing

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if you found this material compelling

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but until next time friends from deep

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